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2008/2/22

How Traitor LBJ Collaborated With Israel To Attack & Kill U.S. Soldiers on the USS Liberty

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@ 11:54 AM (2 months, 23 days ago)

With friends like these - we can have as many enemies as we need to keep the $ rolling. TRAITORS.

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  1. Elmer?

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/22 @ 09:35 PM — (Reply)

  2. bore me later

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/22 @ 09:47 PM — (Reply)

  3. bore me later

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/22 @ 09:48 PM — (Reply)

  4. tried to insert this link

    http://hnn.us/articles/39936.html

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/22 @ 09:48 PM — (Reply)

  5. Israel paid reparations

    http://zioncon.blogspot.com/2007/06/nefarious-uss-liberty-lobby-groups.html

    Alex Jones supports this silliness along with a myriad of other anti semites

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/22 @ 10:02 PM — (Reply)

  6. It simply lists a bunch of historical events and claims they're false flag or other operations regardless of what kind (or regardless of whether or not) perfidy or any evidence of perfidy was involved.

    For example it raises the USS Liberty was an example of false flag operation even though the Israelis immediately admitted it was them but claimed it was an accident (something the US government has never explicitly accepted), so what could it possibly be a false flag for? The claim that it was to embroil the Americans against the Egyptians is nonsensical and legitimate controversies are glossed over in a simplistic way.

    Alex Jones does something similar with the Gulf of Tonkin. The second incident is accepted as a mistake today, but an honest one, something confirmed by declassified Naval documents which show conclusively that the crew of both US ships believed they had been fired on (one of them, the USS Maddox, had been fired on a few days earlier and naturally the crews of both N Vietnamese and American ships were subsequently a lot jumpier). There's some evidence the NSA studied the attacks, initially believed them to be accurate, but realised too late they had made a mistake and covered their mistake up but that doesn't make it false flag nor is it evidence that the US government intentionally fabricated the incident.

    He also raises Operation Northwoods, and mentions the planning of loads of terrorist attacks, but fails to note that all but one were rejected before MacNamara simply failed to implement it (the video fabricates a claim that Operation Northwoods was actually conducted). It also ignores the fact that actual CIA operations (eg., the Bay of Pigs fiasco) resulted in a complete overhaul of the responsibilities and powers of intelligence organisations.

    Every point in the film is like this, speculative navel gazing is presented authoritatively and a huge number of claims are made up without any attempt at explanation or justification while contradictory facts are glossed over.

    Alex Jones seems almost pathological in his need to string together every worldly event as a contiguous string of United States evil. He simultaneously claims that terror attacks are covered up to keep the public calm but also terror is fabricated in order to keep the public scared. In his worldview everything is a potential motivation and establishing potential motivations is all that is needed for evidence. Like the 9/11 Denial movement itself he absolutely refuses to construct and analyse any cohesive explanation for a body of facts. I mean I can keep pointing out just how terrible it is but this is off topic enough.

    Comment by Elmers Brother— 2008/02/22 @ 10:18 PM — (Reply)

  7. BS - simply denying it ever happened is hardly a skewering. The living soldiers who were there tell a different story, Elmer. It has nothing to do with being anti anything and everything to do with false flags and deception. It is a matter of historical record.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/23 @ 04:01 PM — (Reply)

  8. I never said it didn't happen what I don't accept is alex jones stupid interpretation

    Comment by elmers brother— 2008/02/23 @ 09:10 PM — (Reply)

  9. You even admit it happened and they paid reparations - the flag flew high on the Liberty - it was attacked for hours on end and its signals blocked - there was no way they didn't know who the ship belonged to. Admit it, Elmer - they were caught red handed running false flags.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/23 @ 04:05 PM — (Reply)

  10. what I dismiss is the silly characterization of it

    Comment by elmers bruther— 2008/02/23 @ 09:06 PM — (Reply)

  11. Well, if you admit it happened - what can possibly be behind the reasoning on how Israel attacked for hours and missed the giant US flag on the top of the boat?

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/23 @ 09:34 PM — (Reply)

  12. did you read the links I left for you? It lambasts guys like Wayne Boston and there were some posers too....guys that were going around posing as these sailors

    who was disputing that it happened? the dispute is this silly bull from Alex Jones et. al who make up these lies to foment hatred of Israel and distrust of the government

    Comment by elmers brother— 2008/02/24 @ 09:32 AM — (Reply)

  13. Okay. So HOW DID THEY KEEP ATTACKING FOR HOURS - NEARLY A WHOLE DAY - And not see the US Flag? Why were they jamming the ships signals? When there is no other excuse - to resort to character assassination of the survivors and call people antisemites is pathetic.

    "The survivors are antisemetic for not allowing us to kill them."

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/24 @ 09:37 AM — (Reply)

  14. SKEWERED

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    Ed




    Comment by Ed— 2008/02/23 @ 04:08 PM — (Reply)

  15. Maybe thats all it takes for you, Ed. I find it comical that Elmer denies all the real proof of 911 but believes all the BS explanations for every other story.

    So let me get this straight, Ed - The attack on the Liberty by Israel never happened?

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/23 @ 04:11 PM — (Reply)

  16. You don't need to triple post your retardation, Ed - once is more than enough.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/23 @ 04:19 PM — (Reply)

  17. The triple posts are for your viewing ease Dugg aka YOUR retardation bud. It looks to me as though the story is that it was an apologized for and compensated mistake.

    Ed

    Comment by Ed— 2008/02/23 @ 04:28 PM — (Reply)

  18. Hey...what happened to that really cool 'swekered' photo? I bet you added it to your personal collection!

    Ed

    Comment by Ed— 2008/02/23 @ 09:40 PM — (Reply)

  19. The USS Liberty "lobby" is today little more than a front for neo-nazis and anti-Semites. When Islamist terrorists attacked the USS Cole in 2000, most of these same people applauded teh terrorists and denounced US actions to target the terrorist leaders. The USS Liberty "lobby" is today little more than a front for neo-nazis and anti-Semites. When Islamist terrorists attacked the USS Cole in 2000, most of these same people applauded the terrorists and denounced US actions to target the terrorist leaders.

    I meant Ward Boston:

    Prior to the publication of the June 8, 2007 article, Ward Boston signed an affidavit which was released on October 22, 2003, making similar allegations and later supplemented the affidavit by declaration making additional allegations. So, Boston, who signed the Court of Inquiry findings under an oath in 1967, now says under oath in 2003 that he
    participated in a lie in 1967. If he is telling the truth now, he confirms lying in 1967, or if he was truthful in 1967, then obviously he is lying now. So how does one decide when Ward Boston was lying? Then or now?

    Alex Jones talks about how he is exposing Bush as being like the evil Nazis, yet uses American Free Press that is founded by someone who believes Hitler should've won the Noble Peace Prize!

    Officials say they were assured by the United States that no U.S. ships were in the area, and that its air and naval forces mistakenly identified Liberty as the Egyptian vessel El Quseir. Supporters of this position say that no credible motive existed for Israel to initiate a surprise attack against an important ally and the possibility of such mistakes were inherent in the tense atmosphere of the Six-Day War.

    Both the Israeli and American governments conducted multiple inquiries into the incident, and issued reports concluding that the attack was a tragic mistake, caused by confusion about the identity of the USS Liberty .On December 17, 1987, the issue was officially closed by the two governments through an exchange of diplomatic notes. Israel eventually paid nearly $13 million in humanitarian reparations to the United States and in compensation to the families of the victims.

    Comment by elmers brother— 2008/02/24 @ 10:15 AM — (Reply)

  20. notice the word 'credible'

    Comment by elmers brother— 2008/02/24 @ 10:17 AM — (Reply)

  21. You're still screwed Dugg.


    Definition of Credible
    Cred´i`ble Pronunciation: krĕd´ĭ`b'l
    a. 1. Capable of being credited or believed; worthy of belief; entitled to confidence; trustworthy.
    Things are made credible either by the known condition and quality of the utterer or by the manifest likelihood of truth in themselves.
    - Hooker.
    A very diligent and observing person, and likewise very sober and credible.
    - Dampier.

    KEEP AT IT DUGG....YOU MIGHT GET THERE



    In the meantime you are still screwed.

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    Comment by Ed— 2008/02/24 @ 11:02 AM — (Reply)

  22. Well, despite the fact that one of the survivors appears to have bad character - all the rest of the survivors are saying the exact same thing. They're not all lying. Your controlled media is painting them to be racist because they dare expose the fact that Israel tried to murder them.

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/24 @ 11:25 AM — (Reply)

  23. Even one of the Israeli pilots came forward. If he can admit it - why can't you?

    Comment by Dugg— 2008/02/24 @ 11:27 AM — (Reply)

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